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Keep note, the attack % value are test values based on the understanding of the formation properties in previous games. Enemy targeting in this game is handled separately via an enemy behavior flag along with position data. So while the formation might make it less likely for a character to get targeted by an attack, enemy behavior data might change the actual chance.   
Keep note, the attack % value are test values based on the understanding of the formation properties in previous games. Enemy targeting in this game is handled separately via an enemy behavior flag along with position data. So while the formation might make it less likely for a character to get targeted by an attack, enemy behavior data might change the actual chance.   
== Formation Data ==
== Formation Data ==
=== Free Fight ===
=== Free Fight (フリーファイト) ===
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!Layout
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=== Imperial Cross ===
=== Imperial Cross (インペリアルクロス) ===
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!Layout
!Layout
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| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Starting formation
* Obtained by clearing story stage 1-2-12
* Position 3 aggros most attacks
* Position 3 aggros most attacks, but gets defense bonus. Useful for early tanking.
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|2
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=== Imperial Arrow ===
=== Phoenix (鳳天舞の陣) ===
{| class="article-table"
!Layout
!Position
Number
!Attack
%
!Notes
!More Notes
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
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|4
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|1
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|5
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|1
|4
|<nowiki>+1 speed, defend after action</nowiki>
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned  through Imperial Guard as emperor
* Attacks are now even more focused on position 3
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|2
|1
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|3
|81
|<nowiki>+1 speed, defend after action</nowiki>
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|4
|8
|<nowiki>+1 speed, defend after action</nowiki>
|-
|5
|6
|<nowiki>+1 speed, defend after action</nowiki>
|}
=== Phoenix ===
{| class="article-table"
{| class="article-table"
!Layout
!Layout
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|VIT, INT, MNT +25%
|VIT, INT, MNT +25%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Obtained by clearing story stage 4-2-10
* Good for party Magical Defense
* Good for party Magical Defense
* Position 1 gets bonus on all defense stats, but only gets bonuses to magic attack stat
* Position 1 gets bonus on all defense stats, but only gets bonuses to magic attack stat
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|<span class="">MNT+25%</span>SPD-25%
|<span class="">MNT+25%</span>SPD-25%
|}
|}
=== Lightning ===
=== Desert Fox (デザートランス) ===
{| class="article-table"
!Layout
!Position
<nowiki>#</nowiki>
!Attack
%
!
Notes
!
More Notes
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
!
2
!
!
!
!
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4
!
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|1
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|5
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|3
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|1
|20
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| rowspan="5" |
* Learned through Levante Guard as emperor
* Characters will always move in the order of 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 1
|-
|2
|<span class="">20</span>
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|3
|<span class="">20</span>
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|4
|<span class="">20</span>
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|5
|<span class="">20</span>
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=== Desert Fox ===
{| class="article-table"
{| class="article-table"
!
!
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SPD+25%
SPD+25%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Obtained by clearing story stage 3-2-6
* Good for early stage tank/bruiser mains
* Good for early stage tank/bruiser mains
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|SPD-10%
|SPD-10%
|}
|}
=== Amazon Strike ===
=== Speculation (スペキュレイション) ===
{| class="article-table"
{| class="article-table"
!
!
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|1
|1
|30
|High
|Speed +3, defend after action, bonus to melee
|SPD+50%
STR+25%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned by Amazon
* Obtained by clearing story stage 5-2-10
* Highly melee focused
* Melee and Speed Focused formation where positions 1, 2, and 3.
* Possibly useful to run 3 brawlers in position 1, 2, and 3. (Martial Arts uses both Speed and Strength for damage)
|-
|-
|2
|2
|20
|Average
|Speed +1, defend after action, bonus to melee
|STR+25%
SPD+25%
|-
|-
|3
|3
|20
|Average
|Speed +1, defend after action, bonus to melee
|STR+25%
SPD+25%
|-
|-
|4
|4
|15
|Average
|
|SPD-50%
|-
|-
|5
|5
|15
|Average
|
|SPD-50%
|}
|}
=== Hunter Shift ===
=== Hunter Shift (ハンターシフト) ===
{| class="article-table"
{| class="article-table"
!
!
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SPD-50%
SPD-50%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Obtained by clearing story stage 2-2-10
* Ganking formation, except position 1
* Ganking formation, except position 1
|-
|-
|2
|2
|29
|High
|SPD+25%
|SPD+25%
|-
|-
|3
|3
|29
|High
|SPD+25%
|SPD+25%
|-
|-
|4
|4
|2
|Average
|SPD+25%
|SPD+25%
|-
|-
|5
|5
|2
|Average
|SPD+25%
|SPD+25%
|}
|}
=== Whirlwind ===
=== Power Raise (パワーレイズ) ===
{| class="article-table"
!
<span class="">Layout</span>
!
Position
 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>
!
Attack
 
%
!<span class="">Notes</span>
!<span class="">More Notes</span>
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
!
!
!
!4
!
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!2
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|3
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|1
|10
|Speed +1, defend after action
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned via Nomad Emperor
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|2
|35
|<span class="">Speed +1, defend after action</span>
|-
|3
|35
|<span class="">Speed +1, defend after action</span>
|-
|4
|10
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|-
|5
|10
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=== Holy Wall ===
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!
Position
 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>
!
Attack
 
%
!<span class="">Notes</span>
!<span class="">More Notes</span>
|-
| rowspan="5" |
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|2
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|1
|34
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* Learned via Crusader emperor
* Good for defending back row
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|2
|32
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|3
|32
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|4
|1
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|5
|1
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=== Power Raise ===
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{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!<span class="">Layout</span>
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|1
|1
|10
|Low
|Speed-2, Magic Power bonus
|INT+50%
SPD-50%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned via Diver empress
* Obtained by clearing experience cave level 5
* Only formation that gives bonus to casting
* Mage focused formation for position 1.
|-
|-
|2
|2
|20
|Average
|
|SPD+25%
|-
|-
|3
|3
|20
|Average
|
|SPD+25%
|-
|-
|4
|4
|25
|Average
|Speed +1, defend after action
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|5
|5
|25
|Average
|<span class="">Speed +1, defend after action</span>
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|}
=== Rapid Stream ===
=== Rapid Stream (ラピッドストリーム) ===
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{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!<span class="">Layout</span>
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|1
|1
|20
|Average
|Speed-2
|SPD+50%
CON-15%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned via Merchant Marine emperor
* Obtained by clearing Treasure Hunting Stage level 7
* Always goes first in battle
* High speed formation at the cost of defense
* Forced action order 1>2>3>4>5
* Great for a quick kill if your party has decent DPS across the board
* After action, all characters are treated as stunned (no shield or counter chance activation)
* Risky for longer fights
* speed penalty doesn't effect action order, but stuff like martial arts damage
* Good for clearing mobs
|-
|-
|2
|2
|<span class="">20</span>
|Average
|<span class="">Speed-2</span>
|SPD+50%
CON-15%
|-
|-
|3
|3
|<span class="">20</span>
|Average
|<span class="">Speed-2</span>
|SPD+50%
CON-15%
|-
|-
|4
|4
|<span class="">20</span>
|Average
|<span class="">Speed-2</span>
|SPD+50%
CON-15%
|-
|-
|5
|5
|<span class="">20</span>
|Average
|<span class="">Speed-2</span>
|SPD+50%
|}
CON-15%
=== Mu Fence ===
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!
Position
 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>
!
Attack
 
%
!<span class="">Notes</span>
!<span class="">More Notes</span>
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
!
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!
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!4
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!2
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|1
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|1
=== Dragon (龍陣) ===
|<span class="">20</span>
|Speed-2, defend before action
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned via Mu Clansman emperor
* always go last
* forced action order, 1>2>3>4>5
 
* Most defensive formation in game
|-
|2
|<span class="">20</span>
|<span class="">Speed-2, defend before action</span>
|-
|3
|<span class="">20</span>
|<span class="">Speed-2, defend before action</span>
|-
|4
|<span class="">20</span>
|<span class="">Speed-2, defend before action</span>
|-
|5
|<span class="">20</span>
|<span class="">Speed-2, defend before action</span>
|}
=== Dragon ===
{| class="article-table"
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!<span class="">Layout</span>
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|}
|1
|1
|28
|Average
|
|STR+25
| rowspan="5" |
 
* Learned via brawler emperor
CON+25%
* forced action order, 1>2>3>4>5
|-
|2
|18
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|3
|18
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|4
|8
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|5
|28
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|}
=== Free Fight - 1 ===
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!
Position


<nowiki>#</nowiki>
SPD+25%
!
Attack


%
INT+25%
!<span class="">Notes</span>
!<span class="">More Notes</span>
|-
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
* Obtained by clearing Spiral Tower level 30
!
* Highly focused on position 1 bonsues
!4
* Good for parties that has a strong carry in front for sustain or to put a weaker character in front to help protect them better (if the other 4 carries)
!
!
!
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!
!2
!
!
!
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|1
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|3
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|5
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|1
|1
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| rowspan="5" |
* Learned through Vagabond emperor
* best for protecting squishy emperors
* also known as "Free for All 2" in the remake
|-
|-
|2
|2
|24
|Average
|
|SPD+10%
|-
|-
|3
|3
|25
|Average
|
|SPD+10%
|-
|-
|4
|4
|25
|Average
|
|SPD-25%
|-
|-
|5
|5
|25
|Average
|
|SPD-25%
|}
|}
=== Goblin Attack ===
=== Amazon Strike (アマゾンストライク) ===
{| class="article-table"
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!
Layout
!
!
Position
Position
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!2
!
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!
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|5
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|3
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|1
|30
|Speed+1, melee and range bonus
| rowspan="5" |
* Learned via maze of memories
* highly offense oriented formation
|-
|2
|30
|Speed+1, melee bonus
|-
|3
|20
|Speed+1, melee bonus
|-
|4
|10
|Speed+1, range bonus
|-
|5
|10
|Speed+1, range bonus
|}
=== Sudden Decree ===
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!
!
Position
<nowiki>#</nowiki>
!
!
Attack
2
 
%
!<span class="">Notes</span>
!<span class="">More Notes</span>
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
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!3
!
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!2
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|1
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=== Opportunist (need to get proper name for ninja formation) ===
{| class="article-table"
!<span class="">Layout</span>
!
Position
<nowiki>#</nowiki>
!
Attack
%
!<span class="">Notes</span>
!<span class="">More Notes</span>
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{| class="article-table"
!
!
!
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!
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!2
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|4
|5
|5
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|1
|1
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|High
|
|STR+50%
| rowspan="5" |
| rowspan="5" |
* Obtained by clearing story stage (Very Hard) 1-5
* Melee Focused formation for positions 1, 2, and 3.
* Possibly useful to run 3 melee DPS in position 1, 2, and 3.
|-
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|2
|2
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|Average
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|STR+25%
|-
|-
|3
|3
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|Average
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|STR+25%
|-
|-
|4
|4
|
|Average
|
|SPD-25%
|-
|-
|5
|5
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|Average
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|SPD-25%
|}
|}
===  ===

Revision as of 15:07, January 8, 2019

 Formation System

Romancing Saga: Re: univerSe has a total of a lot of different formations available to you, each with it's own benefits / mechanics.

In the beginning of the game, you start off with free fight. Free Fight is the standard formation with no special properties

New formations can be acquired as you finish quests and missions.

Keep note, the attack % value are test values based on the understanding of the formation properties in previous games. Enemy targeting in this game is handled separately via an enemy behavior flag along with position data. So while the formation might make it less likely for a character to get targeted by an attack, enemy behavior data might change the actual chance.

Formation Data

Free Fight (フリーファイト)

Layout Position

Number

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
5
2
1
3
6
1 Average
  • Starting Formation
2 Average
3 Average
4 Average
5 Average

Imperial Cross (インペリアルクロス)

Layout Position

Number

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
4
3 1 2
5
1 Average
  • Obtained by clearing story stage 1-2-12
  • Position 3 aggros most attacks, but gets defense bonus. Useful for early tanking.
2 Very Low
3 Very High SPD - 50%, VIT +50%
4 Average
5 Average

Phoenix (鳳天舞の陣)

Layout Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
2 4
1
3 5
1 Very High VIT, INT, MNT +25%
  • Obtained by clearing story stage 4-2-10
  • Good for party Magical Defense
  • Position 1 gets bonus on all defense stats, but only gets bonuses to magic attack stat
2 Low MNT +25%,

SPD -25%

3 Low MNT +25%, SPD-25%
4 Very Low MNT+25%SPD-25%
5 Very Low MNT+25%SPD-25%

Desert Fox (デザートランス)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
2
4
1
5
3
1 Very High VIT+50%

SPD+25%

  • Obtained by clearing story stage 3-2-6
  • Good for early stage tank/bruiser mains
2 Average SPD-10%
3 Average SPD-10%
4 Average SPD-10%
5 Average SPD-10%

Speculation (スペキュレイション)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
4
2
1
3
5
1 High SPD+50%

STR+25%

  • Obtained by clearing story stage 5-2-10
  • Melee and Speed Focused formation where positions 1, 2, and 3.
  • Possibly useful to run 3 brawlers in position 1, 2, and 3. (Martial Arts uses both Speed and Strength for damage)
2 Average STR+25%

SPD+25%

3 Average STR+25%

SPD+25%

4 Average SPD-50%
5 Average SPD-50%

Hunter Shift (ハンターシフト)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
4
2
1
3
5
1 Very Low DEX+50%

SPD-50%

  • Obtained by clearing story stage 2-2-10
  • Ganking formation, except position 1
2 High SPD+25%
3 High SPD+25%
4 Average SPD+25%
5 Average SPD+25%

Power Raise (パワーレイズ)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
2
4
1
5
3
1 Low INT+50%

SPD-50%

  • Obtained by clearing experience cave level 5
  • Mage focused formation for position 1.
2 Average SPD+25%
3 Average SPD+25%
4 Average
5 Average

Rapid Stream (ラピッドストリーム)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
4
2
1
3
5
1 Average SPD+50%

CON-15%

  • Obtained by clearing Treasure Hunting Stage level 7
  • High speed formation at the cost of defense
  • Great for a quick kill if your party has decent DPS across the board
  • Risky for longer fights
2 Average SPD+50%

CON-15%

3 Average SPD+50%

CON-15%

4 Average SPD+50%

CON-15%

5 Average SPD+50%

CON-15%

Dragon (龍陣)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
2
3
1
4
5
1 Average STR+25

CON+25%

SPD+25%

INT+25%

  • Obtained by clearing Spiral Tower level 30
  • Highly focused on position 1 bonsues
  • Good for parties that has a strong carry in front for sustain or to put a weaker character in front to help protect them better (if the other 4 carries)
2 Average SPD+10%
3 Average SPD+10%
4 Average SPD-25%
5 Average SPD-25%

Amazon Strike (アマゾンストライク)

Layout

Position

#

Attack

%

Notes More Notes
4

2

1
3
5
1 High STR+50%
  • Obtained by clearing story stage (Very Hard) 1-5
  • Melee Focused formation for positions 1, 2, and 3.
  • Possibly useful to run 3 melee DPS in position 1, 2, and 3.
2 Average STR+25%
3 Average STR+25%
4 Average SPD-25%
5 Average SPD-25%

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